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[M4sh3dP0t4t03]

What about making advanced turtles that have the same advantages as advanced computers?(like color API and mouse support and that stuff)

[Spongy141]

I think this is already planned...

[immibis]

I think this is already denied...

[Geforce Fan]

What's the purpose? Other than clicking, we don't really need a better screen. They're turtles, NOT computers.

[Sammich Lord]

Turtles are meant to be your little slave. You remotely control them with your nice shiny advanced computer.

[nutcase84]

Why can't they be fancy little slaves? /+1

[Kingdaro]

Turtles were meant for practical use, and only have a screen as console output for programs.

[Dlcruz129]

I'm gonna save Lyqyd some time and shamelessly advertise nsh.

[TheGamerOfAction]

I've always wanted advanced turtles, but I also doubt the're gonna be added. Plus, when you sit down and think about it, they have very little use. So now I'm sort of in the middle on the whole idea.

[jesusthekiller]

You don't need mouse or colors within turtle.

[Spongy141]

 jesusthekiller, on 19 May 2013 - 05:32 PM, said:

You don't need mouse or colors within turtle.

Do we need advanced computers? No, its a luxury this would be a luxury And would be nice to have, since some people do program there turtles inside the turtle, which it would be easier with a advanced type of turtle, and it would look nicer as well, maybe the turtle would even use fuel better as well.

[Kingdaro]

I would go as far to say that advanced computers are almost as important as rednet. Simple differences such as a wider colorset and simpler, click-based controls as opposed to black and white and keyboard controls can greatly increase the usability of the program. Touch-based monitors are helpful because you don't need to go into your console to send commands to your program. Saying advanced computers are a luxury are like saying that modern computers and laptops IRL are a luxury, when in reality they're very important to businesses and to the usability of programs.

Because we have advanced computers, we don't need advanced turtles. An advanced turtle would just be a moving advanced computer.

[theoriginalbit]

Given the limited screen real-estate I would say that click ability would be nice. It would allow for some more intuitive and user-friendly GUIs which overall improves the usability of programs. However I don't think colours would add quite as much to programs, as you can make programs that look nice with only B&W...

[Spongy141]

 Kingdaro, on 20 May 2013 - 09:32 AM, said:

I would go as far to say that advanced computers are almost as important as rednet. Simple differences such as a wider colorset and simpler, click-based controls as opposed to black and white and keyboard controls can greatly increase the usability of the program. Touch-based monitors are helpful because you don't need to go into your console to send commands to your program. Saying advanced computers are a luxury are like saying that modern computers and laptops IRL are a luxury, when in reality they're very important to businesses and to the usability of programs.

Because we have advanced computers, we don't need advanced turtles. An advanced turtle would just be a moving advanced computer.

Every bit of technology is a luxury, its slowly becoming a standard in everyday life, but at the moment, it's still a luxury. For businesses all they do is two things, if a factory (Build most of the goods) and two, help organize everything, since you really do not need a computer, you only want one.
Back on topic: Some people (like myself) do not use rednet to control their turtle, my reason is that without rednet towers (To make the signal stronger) the turtle could easily go out of bounds and get lost. Yes you could bypass that by having the turtle need to have a GPS signal ping back to it or it will go back to its origin, point is though, most people don't do that. The nice GUI for the advanced turtle wouldn't be the only thing, it should also be smarter and use less fuel, maybe even carry more items. Though you do not need it, it would be a nice luxury to have.

[JJRcop]

Maybe Advanced Turtles could be made with obsidian instead of gold, then their bonus would be explosion resistance.

[M4sh3dP0t4t03]

 JJRcop, on 22 May 2013 - 02:32 AM, said:

Maybe Advanced Turtles could be made with obsidian instead of gold, then their bonus would be explosion resistance.

That would be less needed, because your turtle almost never comes in contact with explosions. And even if, it's mostly TNT which was planted by the turtle, so you would know it and just let the turtle "run away"

[JJRcop]

Well if that doesn't happen, then I see no point for advanced turtles. You don't need anything fancy for their screens because once they move far enough away you can't even access the screens. In fact, the screen isn't exactly needed in the first place, but it's there anyway.

Actually, let's imagine turtles without screens, where you would have to install all the programs via a disk drive, and where you would have to need wireless turtles to get the same amount of interactivity we have right now.

It would be much more realistic, and that's good, right?

[Spongy141]

 JJRcop, on 22 May 2013 - 04:02 PM, said:

Well if that doesn't happen, then I see no point for advanced turtles. You don't need anything fancy for their screens because once they move far enough away you can't even access the screens. In fact, the screen isn't exactly needed in the first place, but it's there anyway.

Actually, let's imagine turtles without screens, where you would have to install all the programs via a disk drive, and where you would have to need wireless turtles to get the same amount of interactivity we have right now.

It would be much more realistic, and that's good, right?

How will you know if the turtle is on or off? How will you install the program? That's why turtles have a screen. (Probably)
Anyways, I noticed most of you think a advanced turtle should be just a advanced computer in turtle form. Has not one read my comments? It should also be better on fuel, that would be a very good reason to have them, why have a regular turtle when you can have a Tier 2 one, same goes with computers.

[immibis]

Turtles not having screens could be an interesting option.

[BigSHinyToys]

 immibis, on 24 May 2013 - 07:42 AM, said:

Turtles not having screens could be an interesting option.

If they have no screen then they would have to have a floppy slot to program them with or a way to push a program to them via peripheral call.

As for color screen turtles I don't think they are needed especial considering that PDA's will some time soon allow us to drive turtles around remotely and I would bet will be color and touch at least maybe even click.