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[Pharap]

I can see the pda having a limit being logical, just not a one file limit.
After all, the computers and floppy disks have limits (people often forget this, I know I do).
Perhaps just give it the same limit as the floppy disks.
If it were to be really realistic, it would be the floppy disk space minus the size of the OS, but that would be unfair on people who use large OSes, so it's best just to run it off the floppy disk space limit, or at the least set the limit in the config to the same as a floppy.

Just my 2 pence.

[Leo Verto]

pokepal101, on 28 December 2012 - 03:14 PM, said:

Bubba, on 28 December 2012 - 05:11 AM, said:

Leo Verto, on 28 December 2012 - 04:12 AM, said:

Limiting it to one file would just make it more difficult but I don't get your point about a one-file program just displaying the time.
You'd just have to integrate all APIs and programs into one program.

Exactly. Allowing for only one file doesn't make it more balanced, it just makes things unrealistic. Even with the one file limitation, it would still be possible to simulate a multi-file environment - it would just be more difficult. Have you ever heard of a computer that is only able to save one file if it is not limited by memory? I haven't.

That was my point when I was saying

pokepal101, on 27 December 2012 - 12:38 AM, said:

I'll just put everything into one massive file.

Then, the people who proposed the one-file idea (to preserve their original intent of restricting the PDAs functions) might suggest "oh, then we'll limit disk space to 1KB" or something. Making the PDA even more pointless.

I feel like you are taking this way too serious, I just suggested something and you're fighting against it without any valid reasons, in my opinion the disk space limit of a floppy disk would be good (this is just to prevent people from spamming a server's HDD).
My point of limiting it to one file was the challenge of keeping all your stuff in one file and it was just a suggestion.

[Cloudy]

I imagine it would be smaller than a computer but bigger than a floppy disk.

[3751_Creator]

Cloudy, on 29 December 2012 - 03:11 AM, said:

I imagine it would be smaller than a computer but bigger than a floppy disk.

When do you think it will be implemented in the next CC version?

[BigSHinyToys]

3751_Creator, on 29 December 2012 - 03:41 AM, said:

Cloudy, on 29 December 2012 - 03:11 AM, said:

I imagine it would be smaller than a computer but bigger than a floppy disk.

When do you think it will be implemented in the next CC version?

Some random people give you a awesome computer in minecraft then monitors turtles wifi and just a few days ago touch screens and you ask when they will add a new feature ???? Maybe a little gratitude They will do it when they like if they want to.

[Dlcruz129]

My thoughts on this topic:

• Smaller Screen Size - Definitely
  
• Directly Accessing Peripherals - No
  
• Slower Processing Speed - No No No No Nooooo
  
• Recipe - Perhaps diamonds in the recipe?
  
• "Hotkeys" - Naw, it would just make stuff too complicated, especially for dan/Cloudy. Just open your PDA and hit a button on your GUI.
  
• Advanced PDAs - Definitely.
  
• Only one file - No no no no no! Also you could just emulate a multi-file system with functions for all of your programs.
  
• Mounting to Computer - Just use the disk drive, we don't need a special dock or anything

[Cranium]

Dlcruz129, on 29 December 2012 - 05:48 AM, said:

Mounting to Computer - Just use the disk drive, we don't need a special dock or anything

I can just imagine someone trying to jam their PDA or smartphone into an old floppy drive. That would be hilarious.

[Left4Cake]

Cranium, on 29 December 2012 - 06:13 AM, said:

Dlcruz129, on 29 December 2012 - 05:48 AM, said:

Mounting to Computer - Just use the disk drive, we don't need a special dock or anything

I can just imagine someone trying to jam their PDA or smartphone into an old floppy drive. That would be hilarious.

It would probably look like this if it worked that way.

[Bubba]

Left4Cake, on 29 December 2012 - 08:40 AM, said:

Cranium, on 29 December 2012 - 06:13 AM, said:

Dlcruz129, on 29 December 2012 - 05:48 AM, said:

Mounting to Computer - Just use the disk drive, we don't need a special dock or anything

I can just imagine someone trying to jam their PDA or smartphone into an old floppy drive. That would be hilarious.

It would probably look like this if it worked that way.

Actually that looks pretty awesome XD

[Cranium]

Left4Cake, on 29 December 2012 - 08:40 AM, said:

It would probably look like this if it worked that way.

I meant LITERALLY shoving your phone or PDA into the slot of a floppy drive, thus destroying both devices.

[Left4Cake]

Cranium, on 29 December 2012 - 09:27 AM, said:

I meant LITERALLY shoving your phone or PDA into the slot of a floppy drive, thus destroying both devices.

I know what you meant, Just because I told a joke dose not mean I did not get your meaning.

[RunasSudo-AWOLindefinitely]

Dlcruz129, on 29 December 2012 - 05:48 AM, said:

My thoughts on this topic:

• Smaller Screen Size - Definitely
  
• Directly Accessing Peripherals - No
  
• Slower Processing Speed - No No No No Nooooo
  
• Recipe - Perhaps diamonds in the recipe?
  
• "Hotkeys" - Naw, it would just make stuff too complicated, especially for dan/Cloudy. Just open your PDA and hit a button on your GUI.
  
• Advanced PDAs - Definitely.
  
• Only one file - No no no no no! Also you could just emulate a multi-file system with functions for all of your programs.
  
• Mounting to Computer - Just use the disk drive, we don't need a special dock or anything

+1 Exactly what I was thinking. Although a special dock to turn the PDA into a computer would be nice...

[ChunLing]

Why?

The entire point of this would be that it was portable. It will almost certain cost a good bit more than a normal computer, and may have some restrictions. So what bloody point could there be in having a dock that let's it not be portable, that being the only reason to have the thing in the first place?

Couldn't you just carry a computer, and place that, and do any computing that you would have done from the dock?

[Left4Cake]

ChunLing, on 29 December 2012 - 04:02 PM, said:

Why?

The entire point of this would be that it was portable. It will almost certain cost a good bit more than a normal computer, and may have some restrictions. So what bloody point could there be in having a dock that let's it not be portable, that being the only reason to have the thing in the first place?

Couldn't you just carry a computer, and place that, and do any computing that you would have done from the dock?

You don't need it docked all the time or to do everything. I have to plug my mp3 player into a computer to move music onto it, dose that make it not portable.

[ChunLing]

Wouldn't you rather have an mp3 player that was able to download files by wireless, the way that the planned portables in CC will?

[RunasSudo-AWOLindefinitely]

ChunLing, on 29 December 2012 - 07:41 PM, said:

Wouldn't you rather have an mp3 player that was able to download files by wireless, the way that the planned portables in CC will?

Okay, well think of it like my Android phone/tablet. Away from home, I use it portably. At home, I might connect it to my monitor, add a bluetooth keyboard, and save the cost of buying another computer. Wireless would be great, but a dock wouldn't hurt.

[ChunLing]

If portables are inexpensive enough that the PDA + dock isn't two or three times as expensive as a regular computer, that makes some sense. However, I suspect that the portable will at the very least require a computer and a wireless modem, making it more than twice as expensive as a computer by itself. Meaning if the dock costs anything at all, there is no point.

And really, we're talking about maybe gaining a few extra lines of display in monitor size, since we already use our regular keyboards with the PDA.

Look, I won't feel terribly upset if the team decides that it is no trouble at all for them to put in a dock. But I will never use it, and I would question the sanity of anyone who did.

[BigSHinyToys]

ChunLing, on 29 December 2012 - 11:42 PM, said:

I would question the sanity of anyone who did.

and you would load a startup to it how ?? or fix a problem with the startup. There are many perfectly sane reason to interface the "device" with a computer and access it like a mass storage device or connect it to a monitor/disk.

Any way this is all speculation and it will be up to the devs to work it out in the end so we don't have to worry about it just sit back and chill peoples.

[Cloudy]

I don't get the big problem with a dock. It could have many uses. Being able to interact with peripherals for one

[ChunLing]

For that I would use a computer. Unless the PDA + dock was cheaper.

Also, since you would normally carry your PDA with you (kinda the whole point), I don't see the need for a startup program. Just run programs from the shell (and edit them using edit).

Edited by ChunLing, 30 December 2012 - 12:59 AM.