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[KingofGamesYami]

I've tried to make these suggestions as valid as possible, in the hopes that they will be added. I know they may have been suggested before, but I'm going to support them anyway. I see some good ideas getting lost in threads of people explaining why things are too overpowered or not "computercraft themed".

antenna

The antenna would be a multiblock structure that is similar to a wireless modem, but get progressively stronger the taller it is. However, you could not communicate with wireless modems, and because they are multi-block turtles would not be able to equip them. I see this as a very valid option, and I'm sure many people would appreciate it, however it does need some limitations.

laser

A laser would be a new peripheral, that would be extremely basic. Two settings: on and off. It could only point in one direction. It would be unaffected by distance (duh, it's a laser). It would generate a laser-fired event, and you could also check manually if laser is receiving. I see this being more secure then the rednet, but much harder to use because you have to basically send your message in binary. ( on off on off on off 101010 ).

scanner

A scanner with built-in character recognition for scanning paper and books. Books would be recognized as a table {[1] = "page1stuff", [2] = "page2stuff",} and pages would give a multiline string. I realize this isn't really the most realistic feature, but it would be great for inter-dimensional communication, with mods such as enderstorage.

Edited by KingofGamesYami, 21 June 2014 - 05:06 PM.

[Sebra]

1.New multiblock peripheral with separate channel set for long range communications? I'm not against it but doubt Dan200 would want it.
2. New linear communication peripheral unaffected by distance? How much time you want to spend to check obstacles on that distance? Unloaded chunks too?
3. Oversuggested already. Use Floppy Disks, please

[apemanzilla]

Wireless mining turtles <-> Computer running 'repeat' <-> Antenna

At least for me, for the antenna to be significant I'd need a very large normal range (>1000m) else I'd just use computers as repeaters.

Edited by apemanzilla, 22 June 2014 - 03:01 PM.

[KingofGamesYami]

I wouldn't put the range for a single block at 1000, maybe 750 though. And it stacks, so 6 blocks = 4500 which is greatly increased. Keep in mind that they will not be overly costly to craft, and of course you would not have to program anything for them.

[ElvishJerricco]

The thing with antennas is that we can already increase the range by putting the computer higher. Put one at the top of the map and that thing will reach huge distances. Plus with repeaters, I think it's good enough the way it is.

[KingofGamesYami]

ElvishJerricco, on 23 June 2014 - 01:27 AM, said:

The thing with antennas is that we can already increase the range by putting the computer higher. Put one at the top of the map and that thing will reach huge distances. Plus with repeaters, I think it's good enough the way it is.

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My idea with antennas is that we don't have to put the computer higher, we can keep it low enough that we don't need to. With repeaters, you always have to chunk load, and on many servers chunkloading is a definite no-no. With enough antennas, you could get better than a computer on block 256.

[electrodude512]

KingofGamesYami, on 23 June 2014 - 02:03 PM, said:

My idea with antennas is that we don't have to put the computer higher, we can keep it low enough that we don't need to.

What's wrong with placing computers up high? If you don't feel like building a 1x1 tower all the way there, have a turtle go up and place the computer for you, after installing a startup file on the computer to be a repeater and allow remote logins (so you don't have to go up there if you want to change something).

[cptdeath58]

electrodude512, on 23 June 2014 - 09:35 PM, said:

KingofGamesYami, on 23 June 2014 - 02:03 PM, said:

My idea with antennas is that we don't have to put the computer higher, we can keep it low enough that we don't need to.

What's wrong with placing computers up high? If you don't feel like building a 1x1 tower all the way there, have a turtle go up and place the computer for you, after installing a startup file on the computer to be a repeater and allow remote logins (so you don't have to go up there if you want to change something).

Dude, too be honest. unless you want to spend alot of time in programming and getting the blocks to build your noob tower up there (unless you got a skybase or you are in creative.)
not a lot of people like doing so especially if a creeper goes "Hello!" and blam, you got a destroyed tower with no way to get up there unless
you want to spend more blocks getting up there and/or reprogramming a turtle.

[EDIT] and every time you exit the world and come back in you got to activate the computer on top.

On topic:

1.I think this idea is great.

2.I kinda wonder if that is possible, due the fact that you may have unloaded chunks... you are gonna need a lot of world anchors (railcraft as I know of) or something to keep it loaded.

3.This was suggested already.

Edited by cptdeath58, 23 June 2014 - 10:38 PM.

[Lyqyd]

Computers that were running when the chunk unloads start up again when it reloads, except in certain versions with buggy boot behavior.

[cptdeath58]

Lyqyd, on 23 June 2014 - 10:33 PM, said:

Computers that were running when the chunk unloads start up again when it reloads, except in certain versions with buggy boot behavior.

Oh, ok that negates the part:
[EDIT] and every time you exit the world and come back in you got to activate the computer on top.
But still, if I had a sky base then I would just build the computer and run it from my sky base, but I'm not building a huge tower...

Edited by cptdeath58, 23 June 2014 - 10:38 PM.

[wilcomega]

if it cant talk to regular modems, how is this usefull in the sense that this might be used for cellphone towers, i dont see a way of making an antenna on top of an item.....

[Sebra]

What if Beacon would be usable as an antenna? It is expensive and tall enough. Let it ensure maximum range between Beacon and normal modem, but unlimited range between two Beacons.

[KingofGamesYami]

wilcomega, on 05 July 2014 - 12:24 PM, said:

if it cant talk to regular modems, how is this usefull in the sense that this might be used for cellphone towers, i dont see a way of making an antenna on top of an item.....

It's very useful. Here's the setup: Computer w/ antenna on top, and a wireless modem on the side. This covers, say, ~128 blocks. Then we have another computer, 256 blocks away, with the same setup. Neither modem can communicate with the other, but the antennas can. Dramattically reducing the amount of repeating computers you need. Alternatively, you could just have anyone that want's coverage in their base make another one, which repeats over a huge distance.

Sebra, on 05 July 2014 - 07:18 PM, said:

What if Beacon would be usable as an antenna? It is expensive and tall enough. Let it ensure maximum range between Beacon and normal modem, but unlimited range between two Beacons.

Well the idea here is the antenna is multi block, enabling the user to get bigger range the more expensive it is.

[Sebra]

KingofGamesYami, on 07 July 2014 - 01:00 PM, said:

Sebra, on 05 July 2014 - 07:18 PM, said:

What if Beacon would be usable as an antenna? It is expensive and tall enough. Let it ensure maximum range between Beacon and normal modem, but unlimited range between two Beacons.

Well the idea here is the antenna is multi block, enabling the user to get bigger range the more expensive it is.

Well, Beacon is multiblock, looks like antenna and so expensive, even unlimited range between them would not be overpowered.

Edited by Sebra, 07 July 2014 - 01:47 PM.

[AlkamlBan]

I really don't like the idea of multiblock . I would prefer a single block that would instead be able to subject the "message" further away. Basically the same thing but instead of a multiblock structure a single block that the higher it gets the further its signal can travel! Also it could use somthing else instead of rednet, this way being able to do stuff modems can't eg. easy file-sharing (cause currently with modems its a pain in the...emm...you know...)

[Sebra]

AlkamlBan, on 08 July 2014 - 07:52 PM, said:

...single block that the higher it gets the further its signal can travel!...

It is how it is now

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...currently with modems its a pain in the...

If only Dan200 would have will to fix that damned 8-bit bug in strings...

[Cranium]

AlkamlBan, on 08 July 2014 - 07:52 PM, said:

...but instead of a multiblock structure a single block that the higher it gets the further its signal can travel...

You mean a wireless turtle?

[AlkamlBan]

Cranium, on 08 July 2014 - 09:31 PM, said:

AlkamlBan, on 08 July 2014 - 07:52 PM, said:

...but instead of a multiblock structure a single block that the higher it gets the further its signal can travel...

You mean a wireless turtle?

No something like a wireless modem only it wouldn't need a computer right next to it but it still would be able to communicate with one that is on the ground

[Cranium]

That's literally what a wireless turtle can do. And it can move. You're suggesting something that has less features, and takes up only one block.

[KingofGamesYami]

Sebra, on 07 July 2014 - 01:46 PM, said:

KingofGamesYami, on 07 July 2014 - 01:00 PM, said:

Sebra, on 05 July 2014 - 07:18 PM, said:

What if Beacon would be usable as an antenna? It is expensive and tall enough. Let it ensure maximum range between Beacon and normal modem, but unlimited range between two Beacons.

Well the idea here is the antenna is multi block, enabling the user to get bigger range the more expensive it is.

Well, Beacon is multiblock, looks like antenna and so expensive, even unlimited range between them would not be overpowered.

Not in the way I mean though... I don't think it looks much like an antenna, since an antenna is a complex mash of wiring, and a beacon generates light, not radio waves.

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Typically an antenna consists of an arrangement of metallic conductors (elements), electrically connected (often through a transmission line) to the receiver or transmitter.