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#981 3d6

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Posted 12 January 2016 - 06:26 PM

View PostCreator, on 12 January 2016 - 12:17 PM, said:

Also, the fact that someone owns the database means he can change it at his will. Not a good idea.
The same is true of server currencies and copy-paste clones of Krist.
However you can verify that I haven't changed anything by downloading your own copy of the database: http://krist.ceriat.net/data.db

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Posted 12 January 2016 - 06:36 PM

View Post3d6, on 12 January 2016 - 06:26 PM, said:

View PostCreator, on 12 January 2016 - 12:17 PM, said:

Also, the fact that someone owns the database means he can change it at his will. Not a good idea.
The same is true of server currencies and copy-paste clones of Krist.
However you can verify that I haven't changed anything by downloading your own copy of the database: http://krist.ceriat.net/data.db

You could aswell have mined these blocks. We simply don't know. That is why major cryptocurrencies are not centralized.

Don't get me wrong, I trust you. However, better safe than sorry.

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Posted 12 January 2016 - 06:51 PM

If I were to mine Krist, using the same address on two different machines, with a different nonce of course, is it possible to tell which machine solved the block? without looking at the miner log, I mean through an API call result or something?

Edited by EsKreme, 12 January 2016 - 06:52 PM.


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Posted 12 January 2016 - 06:56 PM

View PostCreator, on 12 January 2016 - 06:36 PM, said:

View Post3d6, on 12 January 2016 - 06:26 PM, said:

View PostCreator, on 12 January 2016 - 12:17 PM, said:

Also, the fact that someone owns the database means he can change it at his will. Not a good idea.
The same is true of server currencies and copy-paste clones of Krist.
However you can verify that I haven't changed anything by downloading your own copy of the database: http://krist.ceriat.net/data.db

You could aswell have mined these blocks. We simply don't know. That is why major cryptocurrencies are not centralized.

Don't get me wrong, I trust you. However, better safe than sorry.
That's true - but because of proof-of-work, if I found all or most of the blocks, I'd have to have had a TON of computer power which - as evidenced by the relative latency of the server itself - I simply don't have access to. Most of my krist comes from the first couple days of mining, when you could do it ingame. Frankly I'm running low on KST. :P

View PostEsKreme, on 12 January 2016 - 06:51 PM, said:

If I were to mine Krist, using the same address on two different machines, with a different nonce of course, is it possible to tell which machine solved the block? without looking at the miner log, I mean through an API call result or something?
Theoretically, yes, with enough looking at the difference between the nonces (this is how we know which bitcoin blocks Satoshi Nakamoto found) you could probably figure it out. If you want to know, you're better off using two separate addresses, which is already very encouraged.

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Posted 12 January 2016 - 06:59 PM

View Post3d6, on 12 January 2016 - 06:56 PM, said:

View PostCreator, on 12 January 2016 - 06:36 PM, said:

View Post3d6, on 12 January 2016 - 06:26 PM, said:

View PostCreator, on 12 January 2016 - 12:17 PM, said:

Also, the fact that someone owns the database means he can change it at his will. Not a good idea.
The same is true of server currencies and copy-paste clones of Krist.
However you can verify that I haven't changed anything by downloading your own copy of the database: http://krist.ceriat.net/data.db

You could aswell have mined these blocks. We simply don't know. That is why major cryptocurrencies are not centralized.

Don't get me wrong, I trust you. However, better safe than sorry.
That's true - but because of proof-of-work, if I found all or most of the blocks, I'd have to have had a TON of computer power which - as evidenced by the relative latency of the server itself - I simply don't have access to. Most of my krist comes from the first couple days of mining, when you could do it ingame. Frankly I'm running low on KST. :P

View PostEsKreme, on 12 January 2016 - 06:51 PM, said:

If I were to mine Krist, using the same address on two different machines, with a different nonce of course, is it possible to tell which machine solved the block? without looking at the miner log, I mean through an API call result or something?
Theoretically, yes, with enough looking at the difference between the nonces (this is how we know which bitcoin blocks Satoshi Nakamoto found) you could probably figure it out. If you want to know, you're better off using two separate addresses, which is already very encouraged.

Alternatively, some miners give you the option of setting a custom nonce prefix. This can be used to identify which miner mined a specific block by checking the nonces.

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Posted 14 January 2016 - 11:40 PM

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I have officially broken 1 GH/s!

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Posted 15 January 2016 - 02:13 AM

View Postapemanzilla, on 14 January 2016 - 11:40 PM, said:

I have officially broken 1 GH/s!
Congrats, you win Krist!

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Posted 15 January 2016 - 02:37 AM

View PostAnavrins, on 15 January 2016 - 02:13 AM, said:

View Postapemanzilla, on 14 January 2016 - 11:40 PM, said:

I have officially broken 1 GH/s!
Congrats, you win Krist!
Yes, lots and lots of it!

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Posted 15 January 2016 - 03:54 AM

View Postapemanzilla, on 14 January 2016 - 11:40 PM, said:


I have officially broken 1 GH/s!
Woah! Congrats!

Edited by luker2009, 15 January 2016 - 03:54 AM.


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Posted 15 January 2016 - 04:23 AM

View Post3d6, on 15 January 2016 - 02:37 AM, said:

View PostAnavrins, on 15 January 2016 - 02:13 AM, said:

View Postapemanzilla, on 14 January 2016 - 11:40 PM, said:

I have officially broken 1 GH/s!
Congrats, you win Krist!
Yes, lots and lots of it!

View Postluker2009, on 15 January 2016 - 03:54 AM, said:

View Postapemanzilla, on 14 January 2016 - 11:40 PM, said:

I have officially broken 1 GH/s!
Woah! Congrats!

Now I'm just waiting for Krist 2.0 so that I can actually mine and release my miner... Can't really mine effectively when the database locking makes half the API calls invalid...

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Posted 15 January 2016 - 06:12 PM

View Postapemanzilla, on 14 January 2016 - 11:40 PM, said:

I have officially broken 1 GH/s!

Well im mining like 5-6 hours now at about 2.25 MH/s and im still stuck on block 0000000005d4
I guess you have tested your gpuminer and made the difficulty go through the roof for me D:
A look at the database tells me that difficulty was at 200000 while you were mining a lot and then started dropping (aka it was getting more difficulty) to 18758.
So is it normal for a block to take 11 hours to solve?
Edit:
Difficulty going down and people mining blocks, guess im out of the game until i make a gpuminer and get a good graphics card :wacko:

Edited by bauen1, 15 January 2016 - 06:57 PM.


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Posted 15 January 2016 - 07:42 PM

Yep, that's about right. The difficulty has fallen by a factor of ten, from a point where CPU mining was already tough.

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Posted 15 January 2016 - 07:50 PM

View Postapemanzilla, on 15 January 2016 - 07:42 PM, said:

Yep, that's about right. The difficulty has fallen by a factor of ten, from a point where CPU mining was already tough.
Well good thing that im already developing a mining pool and (somewhat) better CPU/GPU miner :D

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Posted 15 January 2016 - 09:44 PM

Guys, I have one question, why don't we keep all CPU mining?

GPU mining is expensive, electricity, GPU may break and what not. I'd rather we all stick to CPU without raising the levels of difficulty!
Please, from a laptop user.

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Posted 15 January 2016 - 11:49 PM

View PostCreator, on 15 January 2016 - 09:44 PM, said:

Guys, I have one question, why don't we keep all CPU mining?

GPU mining is expensive, electricity, GPU may break and what not. I'd rather we all stick to CPU without raising the levels of difficulty!
Please, from a laptop user.

1. GPU mining is incredibly efficient electricity-wise compared to CPU mining.
2. The CPU is just as likely to break under load as the GPU.
3. People like getting lots of Krist.

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Posted 16 January 2016 - 12:06 AM

View Postapemanzilla, on 15 January 2016 - 11:49 PM, said:

View PostCreator, on 15 January 2016 - 09:44 PM, said:

Guys, I have one question, why don't we keep all CPU mining?

GPU mining is expensive, electricity, GPU may break and what not. I'd rather we all stick to CPU without raising the levels of difficulty!
Please, from a laptop user.

1. GPU mining is incredibly efficient electricity-wise compared to CPU mining.
2. The CPU is just as likely to break under load as the GPU.
3. People like getting lots of Krist.

He's not wrong.

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Posted 16 January 2016 - 04:41 AM

One man controlling a majority of the supply only devalues the currency to others.

At least this is true IMO.

Also, who wants a krist "donation/payment processing" service?

Edited by minizbot2012, 16 January 2016 - 04:45 AM.


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Posted 16 January 2016 - 04:54 AM

View Postminizbot2012, on 16 January 2016 - 04:41 AM, said:

One man controlling a majority of the supply only devalues the currency to others.
Not really true, the fact that only Ape has a working GPU miner does not devalue Krist at all. If anything, the demand for Krist should increase as more people want to get their hands on higher quantities. And yes, I know, other people say "I made a GPU miner blah blah blah" but until I see it, you're just making stuff up.

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Posted 16 January 2016 - 05:04 AM

View Postjustync7, on 16 January 2016 - 04:54 AM, said:

View Postminizbot2012, on 16 January 2016 - 04:41 AM, said:

One man controlling a majority of the supply only devalues the currency to others.
Not really true, the fact that only Ape has a working GPU miner does not devalue Krist at all. If anything, the demand for Krist should increase as more people want to get their hands on higher quantities. And yes, I know, other people say "I made a GPU miner blah blah blah" but until I see it, you're just making stuff up.

What happens at the point that he controls nearly all of it? Will servers still accept it? The way bitcoin has gone the creator himself has called it a failed experiment because 2 Chinese miners has nearly surpassed 49 percent of the world's hashing power for it.

Edited by minizbot2012, 16 January 2016 - 05:05 AM.


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Posted 16 January 2016 - 05:10 AM

View Postminizbot2012, on 16 January 2016 - 05:04 AM, said:

View Postjustync7, on 16 January 2016 - 04:54 AM, said:

View Postminizbot2012, on 16 January 2016 - 04:41 AM, said:

One man controlling a majority of the supply only devalues the currency to others.
Not really true, the fact that only Ape has a working GPU miner does not devalue Krist at all. If anything, the demand for Krist should increase as more people want to get their hands on higher quantities. And yes, I know, other people say "I made a GPU miner blah blah blah" but until I see it, you're just making stuff up.

What happens at the point that he controls nearly all of it? Will servers still accept it? The way bitcoin has gone the creator himself has called it a failed experiment because 2 Chinese miners has nearly surpassed 49 percent of the world's hashing power for it.

That is not bitcoin's situation at all. Satoshi Nakamoto vanished YEARS before mining pools became dangerously large, and they aren't at all big anymore.

Ape is going to release the GPU miner to the public soon. For all the work he put into it, I think he deserves a thousand blocks or so. That's not even 1% of the total amount of KST.

Edited by 3d6, 16 January 2016 - 05:12 AM.






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