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#1681 justync7

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Posted 13 August 2017 - 06:24 PM

View PostTheRockettek, on 10 August 2017 - 05:58 PM, said:

Noone said you had to store it all in a file :^)
So you have 65,150,009,139,058,228,497,766,923,716,720,797,655 TB of RAM?

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Posted 15 August 2017 - 09:48 PM

Erm when you bruteforce you dont make the entire dictionary before hand do you XD. You make it as you progress you derp

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Posted 16 August 2017 - 03:19 AM

... in which case you wouldn't have a database. :|

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Posted 18 August 2017 - 03:22 AM

And in which case, you'll be spending quite some time brute forcing.

#1685 Beeskee

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Posted 18 August 2017 - 10:40 PM

Is Krist available on any exchange? I couldn't find it on coinmarketcap.
500 Krist will take a long time to mine. XD
I love this btw, thank you! I wrote a cryptocurrency mod for Software Inc but it was just text files lol
It would be cool if there was a way to mine this directly in Minecraft - even if it was really slow.
A lot of the sites like the faucet, the lottery, etc, seem to be down or gone. Is there a recent list of active services?
I'd price Krist at ~0.00000005 BTC for 1 Krist (based on GPU mining rate of ~1 USD worth of BTC per day on nicehash versus my Krist mining rate of ~3 blocks per minute.)
I'm sure the OpenComputers people would love a port of this too. XD
I'd love to see the computercraft wallet be able to save to a local disk vault - to put Krist onto a floppy and give it to someone or leave it as treasure, etc. (I know it has a hard disk vault but I mean a separate floppy one)
Working services that I've found so far:
http://klottery.sci4me.com/ - Lottery
http://kristweb.lemmmy.pw/ - Web Wallet
0swpD5L2 - Minecraft Miner <3 (tho ofc krist needs a minecraft-only mining branch so it isn't competing with GPUs lol) - sadly I get "attempt to index nil" for line 20. Edit: Fixed:
I found KristScape, I had to edit it to use the full string.len() and then it crashes on 145 with a call to nil
145: local buffer, title, status, back = _KSML_(t[n].ksml,nil,nil,version,_SAND_,_INQU_)
so I'm not sure what is going on there.

Krist Computercraft API: https://github.com/atenfyr/kristapi (there's a "generator" api also but I haven't found it yet)
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I guess once folks saw BTC hitting >$1k they decided to focus their efforts on that instead. I don't blame them. I hope KristScape comes out sometime soon.

I printed out all 100+ pages of kristwallet, bound them into books, stuck them on the bibliocraft bookshelf, and it makes the client crash. XD Fortunately I just made a backup.

There seems to be a possible exploit in the domain fees being added back: A user could buy a ton of domains at once and then mine all their KST back. I think a queue system would work better, keep the reward at 2 KST and extend the duration.

Edited by Beeskee, 25 August 2017 - 03:54 PM.


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Posted 22 August 2017 - 11:18 AM

View PostBeeskee, on 18 August 2017 - 10:40 PM, said:

Is Krist available on any exchange? I couldn't find it on coinmarketcap.
500 Krist will take a long time to mine. XD
I love this btw, thank you! I wrote a cryptocurrency mod for Software Inc but it was just text files lol
It would be cool if there was a way to mine this directly in Minecraft - even if it was really slow.
A lot of the sites like the faucet, the lottery, etc, seem to be down or gone. Is there a recent list of active services?
I'd price Krist at ~0.00000005 BTC for 1 Krist (based on GPU mining rate of ~1 USD worth of BTC per day on nicehash versus my Krist mining rate of ~3 blocks per minute.)
I'm sure the OpenComputers people would love a port of this too. XD
I'd love to see the computercraft wallet be able to save to a local disk vault - to put Krist onto a floppy and give it to someone or leave it as treasure, etc. (I know it has a hard disk vault but I mean a separate floppy one)
Working services that I've found so far:
http://klottery.sci4me.com/ - Lottery
http://kristweb.lemmmy.pw/ - Web Wallet
0swpD5L2 - Minecraft Miner <3 (tho ofc krist needs a minecraft-only mining branch so it isn't competing with GPUs lol) - sadly I get "attempt to index nil" for line 20.
I found KristScape, I had to edit it to use the full string.len() and then it crashes on 145 with a call to nil
145: local buffer, title, status, back = _KSML_(t[n].ksml,nil,nil,version,_SAND_,_INQU_)
so I'm not sure what is going on there.
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I guess once folks saw BTC hitting >$1k they decided to focus their efforts on that instead. I don't blame them. I hope KristScape comes out sometime soon.

I printed out all 100+ pages of kristwallet, bound them into books, stuck them on the bibliocraft bookshelf, and it makes the client crash. XD Fortunately I just made a backup.

There seems to be a possible exploit in the domain fees being added back: A user could buy a ton of domains at once and then mine all their KST back. I think a queue system would work better, keep the reward at 2 KST and extend the duration.
I don't think it will appear on any exchanges soon unless more people start using Krist. We probably also a simple statement that defines the currency such as "The Universal Minecraft Currency" just like how Bitcoin is "The Internet currency." We need to think outside of Computercraft and reach out to a larger demographic with Krist. Then more people will take it seriously.

#1687 Beeskee

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Posted 23 August 2017 - 08:25 PM

I can definitely understand wanting to keep it off major exchanges - Krist doesn't need a flood of uninterested people getting involved.

At the same time, without some method of automated exchange, Krist is difficult to utilize and more likely to sit inactive in accounts.

I'd rather have bought the 500 KST for my domain, helping to circulate the money supply, than to have mined it. I can't imagine what server admins who want to use KST as a currency for their server have to go through, to get enough KST for players to use. (for those who can't mine it themselves)

Right now, as it stands, anyone who'd want to try to abuse mining Krist would be able to get much better returns from running Nicehash, and anyone who'd want to abuse trading it would likewise do better with another currency. (If you haven't been keeping up with the altcoin markets, pretty much ANY other currency...)

So, maybe a small private exchange, or an exchange that only operates inside of computercraft/opencomputers.

Edited by Beeskee, 23 August 2017 - 08:37 PM.


#1688 Anavrins

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Posted 24 August 2017 - 02:01 AM

The main reason why it will (should) never be on any exchanges is because Krist is completely centralized, the whole system is running on one server controlled by 3d6 et al. which moves all the trust onto them, instead of on individual nodes around the world.
Nothing could potentially stop them from changing the ledger (database) to give them free money, that possibility is the reason why it shouldn't have any real world value, this isn't a problem with a currency that uses an actual blockchain like Bitcoin.

View PostBeeskee, on 18 August 2017 - 10:40 PM, said:

It would be cool if there was a way to mine this directly in Minecraft - even if it was really slow.
0swpD5L2 - Minecraft Miner <3 (tho ofc krist needs a minecraft-only mining branch so it isn't competing with GPUs lol) - sadly I get "attempt to index nil" for line 20.
Try downloading it again, I made some few modifications ;)

Edited by Anavrins, 24 August 2017 - 02:02 AM.


#1689 Beeskee

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Posted 24 August 2017 - 12:00 PM

well yeah that's why I valued it at 5 satoshis max. XD (That'd put the total Krist money supply at ~$1000)
Between that and the lack of an exchange.
I heard public nodes were coming soon tho.

I'll check out the miner, thanks!
edit: Now I get "node offline"
changing the url to http works
Thank you!

Do you have a de-obfuscated version of kmine? I'd love to study it further.

edit2: I added a "sleep(0.1)" statement, I now get 10 hashes per second - this is more like it lol. 1000 h/s was too much, it lagged the rest of computercraft.

Edited by Beeskee, 24 August 2017 - 11:18 PM.


#1690 Anavrins

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Posted 24 August 2017 - 11:28 PM

The miner is not obfuscated, the only obfuscated parts are basically the json part, found here, and my sha256 here.
The node offline error is caused by an outdated java version, you'll just need to update that to the latest 8u144 version.

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Posted 24 August 2017 - 11:43 PM

That's what I meant, the compressed parts. Thanks! (I'm a huge nerd and I like to print out the programs in Minecraft with a CC printer)

And it works with http instead of https - This is running on an older client/server pair so I can't change anything else.


Edit: Anyone know what PaySafeKrist is?

I found the Krist API for it: https://github.com/atenfyr/kristapi
but not the generator API

Edited by Beeskee, 26 August 2017 - 12:39 PM.


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Posted 02 September 2017 - 04:12 PM

View PostBeeskee, on 24 August 2017 - 11:43 PM, said:

That's what I meant, the compressed parts. Thanks! (I'm a huge nerd and I like to print out the programs in Minecraft with a CC printer)

And it works with http instead of https - This is running on an older client/server pair so I can't change anything else.


Edit: Anyone know what PaySafeKrist is?

I found the Krist API for it: https://github.com/atenfyr/kristapi
but not the generator API

I found this compiled PaySafeKrist program, decompile it and maybe you may find something useful. https://pastebin.com/nW2KGF7C

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Posted 04 September 2017 - 08:22 PM

View PostLgaming, on 02 September 2017 - 04:12 PM, said:

View PostBeeskee, on 24 August 2017 - 11:43 PM, said:

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I found this compiled PaySafeKrist program, decompile it and maybe you may find something useful. https://pastebin.com/nW2KGF7C

No need to decompile, I found this by just googling.

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Posted 28 October 2017 - 02:58 PM

If anyone here is stuck with integrated graphics or just can't get OpenCL to work, here's a good alternative:

https://www.kristminer.cf

It's a simple website on which you can essentially mine KST with your CPU at about the same speed as someone with a GPU.

Donations are always welcome: kmineqokuz

View PostBeeskee, on 24 August 2017 - 11:43 PM, said:

That's what I meant, the compressed parts. Thanks! (I'm a huge nerd and I like to print out the programs in Minecraft with a CC printer)

And it works with http instead of https - This is running on an older client/server pair so I can't change anything else.


Edit: Anyone know what PaySafeKrist is?

I found the Krist API for it: https://github.com/atenfyr/kristapi
but not the generator API

View PostLgaming, on 02 September 2017 - 04:12 PM, said:

View PostBeeskee, on 24 August 2017 - 11:43 PM, said:

That's what I meant, the compressed parts. Thanks! (I'm a huge nerd and I like to print out the programs in Minecraft with a CC printer)

And it works with http instead of https - This is running on an older client/server pair so I can't change anything else.


Edit: Anyone know what PaySafeKrist is?

I found the Krist API for it: https://github.com/atenfyr/kristapi
but not the generator API

I found this compiled PaySafeKrist program, decompile it and maybe you may find something useful. https://pastebin.com/nW2KGF7C

View PostLignum, on 04 September 2017 - 08:22 PM, said:

View PostLgaming, on 02 September 2017 - 04:12 PM, said:

View PostBeeskee, on 24 August 2017 - 11:43 PM, said:

...

I found this compiled PaySafeKrist program, decompile it and maybe you may find something useful. https://pastebin.com/nW2KGF7C

No need to decompile, I found this by just googling.

PaySafeKrist is a program of mine. it's a PaySafeCard clone for the Krist cryptocurrency. you can try it out if you want.

And Beeskee, i did not use atenfyr's API, i used mine: github.com/lolmaker2002/luakrist

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Posted 28 October 2017 - 03:52 PM

View Postlolmaker2002, on 28 October 2017 - 02:58 PM, said:

If anyone here is stuck with integrated graphics or just can't get OpenCL to work, here's a good alternative:
https://www.kristminer.cf
It's a simple website on which you can essentially mine KST with your CPU at about the same speed as someone with a GPU.
I'm going to be honest, entering a krist password on any site seems slightly suspect. I'm not saying that you are storing anything, it just might be worth explaining why you need the password submitted to your server. And it's the krist address instead. Ignore everything I said. Though having it submit to a website before redirecting still seems rather strange.

Edited by SquidDev, 28 October 2017 - 03:53 PM.


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Posted 28 October 2017 - 07:32 PM

View PostSquidDev, on 28 October 2017 - 03:52 PM, said:

View Postlolmaker2002, on 28 October 2017 - 02:58 PM, said:

If anyone here is stuck with integrated graphics or just can't get OpenCL to work, here's a good alternative:
https://www.kristminer.cf
It's a simple website on which you can essentially mine KST with your CPU at about the same speed as someone with a GPU.
I'm going to be honest, entering a krist password on any site seems slightly suspect. I'm not saying that you are storing anything, it just might be worth explaining why you need the password submitted to your server. And it's the krist address instead. Ignore everything I said. Though having it submit to a website before redirecting still seems rather strange.
The krist address is used to create a user within the coinhive system, which will then keep track of how many hashes you have mined, are able to withdraw, have been accepted, etc...

This also get's rid of having to log in on every page. (since it makes a cookie for the PHP session)

EDIT: I also want to note that i keep track of nothing, except the stats i can see on coinhive.
This includes: The date you mined your first hash, your account name (your address) and how many hashes you have mined in total.

Edited by lolmaker2002, 28 October 2017 - 07:57 PM.






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