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CraftOS 2.0 - Dan's Secret Project

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#1 Bomb Bloke

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Posted 18 April 2015 - 03:17 PM

I'm not one for checking twitter, but I had this pointed out to me:

https://twitter.com/...109112560099328

Something to look forward to. :)/>

Edit:

Since the starting of this thread, some more information has surfaced (mainly through Dan's twitter, but partly through the posts here) as to what this's all about:

Seems Dan's creating a Lua environment similar to that provided by ComputerCraft computers, but as a stand-alone package (outside of Minecraft) and geared towards aiding new programmers in game development. A lot of details are still unknown, though browsing his twitter feed reveals various screenshots and animations of its progress.

While still simulating limitations of older systems in order to inspire a retro theme (eg 4-bit colour depth), new features such as sound, higher display resolution (320x200), and a remappable palette make it more dynamic than what's possible within CC. Tools such as sprite and sound effect editors will be included - the "edit" script will provide different functionality depending on the type of file you point it at.

There is no concrete schedule for release, though Dan has stated that he intends to fully complete development of Redirection first. He's continued to work on COS2.0 since then, however, so anything's possible.

CraftedCart has been maintaining a list of what's been hinted at (along with relevant links), which you can view here.

Edited by Bomb Bloke, 29 November 2015 - 11:36 PM.


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Posted 18 April 2015 - 03:21 PM

I can't tell if that is unicode or just normal ASCII. There looked like there were some non-ASCII characters there, but it was hard to tell. It will be interesting to see some new UIs make use of this. I wonder if it will be advance computer only though?

I guess it might just be a custom font, this was linked to from a suggestion a while back...as
This was the original suggestion, and this was the new one. Very excited!

Edited by SquidDev, 18 April 2015 - 03:24 PM.


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Posted 18 April 2015 - 03:29 PM

There are swords and skulls in there, so it's definitely not ASCII, or even code page 437 (which is probably the most common extended set). Likewise, Unicode wouldn't have creeper faces in it.

One this that gets me is that in order to render that sort of thing, CC would either need to be able to define custom characters on the fly, or it'd need to be able to handle characters outside of the standard ASCII range. The latter seems most likely to me, and it suggests a certain long-standing bug may've been sorted out perhaps?

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Posted 18 April 2015 - 04:18 PM

I'd say the character set could be just an extended current ASCII to 256 characters. One thing that seems non-CC is that pixels in the gif are squares, not rectangles as in CC.

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Posted 18 April 2015 - 04:22 PM

I also count 17 pixels high, whereas a normal computer has 19. Maybe something to do with this 'brand new secret project', though it definitely looks Minecraft related.

Edited by SquidDev, 18 April 2015 - 04:22 PM.


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Posted 18 April 2015 - 04:25 PM

I didn't think this would be added, but now that I've seen that tweet I'm extremely excited! :D
I have to check out twitter more often! xP

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Posted 18 April 2015 - 05:21 PM

Square Pixels :o
Besides that, the characters could work like stencils in OpenBlocks.
If they did, it would be amazing.

Edited by Requiem of Silence, 18 April 2015 - 05:24 PM.


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Posted 18 April 2015 - 05:58 PM

Aww yiss can't wait to make some ASCII art :D

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Posted 18 April 2015 - 11:18 PM

This looks surprisingly similar to something I've seen before:

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(imagine characters changing here as well)

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Posted 18 April 2015 - 11:36 PM

Is there any doubt if it in CC, or it just something to give us false hopes? If yes, imagine the possibilities:
1) square pixels (luckily all my programs,at least fileX, use term.getSize() and not hardcoded values)
2) Acsii graphics insert cool meme that guy who is running with his hands over his head/ behind him

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Posted 19 April 2015 - 12:59 AM

View PostDav999_NL, on 18 April 2015 - 11:18 PM, said:

This looks surprisingly similar to something I've seen before:

Now that's Unicode. Still, the resemblance is uncanny.

View PostCreator, on 18 April 2015 - 11:36 PM, said:

Is there any doubt if it in CC, or it just something to give us false hopes? If yes, imagine the possibilities:

It may be that it's unrelated to ComputerCraft. Certainly I hadn't noticed that the aspect ratio was off.

Maybe it's a new kinda of "monitor" or something? I really dunno.

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Posted 22 April 2015 - 04:37 AM

Two things I noticed in that video:
- The colour palette is about the same as CC's
- There's a CC turtle character, a rectangle with a slit near the top

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But that's just speculation...

Edited by nitrogenfingers, 22 April 2015 - 05:02 AM.


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Posted 22 April 2015 - 12:04 PM

floppy disk icon at the top left too (see nirtogenfingers screenshot above)

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Posted 22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM

Also there is a sword char:
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And much more obvious a creeper character:
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Posted 22 April 2015 - 07:21 PM

this would be VERY nice to see in CC. To me, it looks like a modified version of some character set that is games-specific. I see things like humans, pac-man(and ghosts), bombs, a dog, what looks like a gravestone, something like a goomba, half of a Space Invader, skulls, and of course, what you guys have noticed.

I'd love to see even a small portion of this in ComputerCraft.

EDIT: Oh, and what looks like a "slime" enemy

Edited by Cranium, 22 April 2015 - 07:29 PM.


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Posted 22 April 2015 - 08:27 PM

Text based old-school (text-based old) standalone console adventure game? :D

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Posted 03 May 2015 - 07:51 PM

View Postwojbie, on 22 April 2015 - 08:27 PM, said:

Text based old-school (text-based old) standalone console adventure game? :D

Looks like you might be right.

For those who don't read Dan's twitter, he's making a secret project, his next game. So it seems that it's not a CC font extension after all.

Edited by MKlegoman357, 03 May 2015 - 07:52 PM.


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Posted 03 May 2015 - 10:55 PM

The partial implementation of Lua 5.2 into the CC beta + the MineCraft-based glyphs have had me thinking "ComputerCraft 2" is in the works.

Whatever it is, he appears to be running a lightly modified version of ComputerCraft's worm script on it.

#19 MKlegoman357

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Posted 04 May 2015 - 06:36 AM

Maybe Dan is creating a standalone CC-based game?

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Posted 05 May 2015 - 03:55 AM

The MineCraft-themed symbols make me think otherwise, but... it's perfectly possible!

Adding in eg something like the interface from CCEdu would differentiate it from every other CC "emulator" out there.





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