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[portablejim]

There is talk in the forum thread for Enderstorage about nerfing the enderchest so it needs to be broken with a pickaxe enchanted with silk touch to encourage use of the enderpouch. So I am wanting a way for the turtles to use ender pouches or the ability to use a silk touch pickaxe with a turtle.

For the enderpouch, I am thinking that the same interactions (suck, drop) would be enough.

[KaoS]

interesting idea, I think they can just spoof turtles to always be able to pick up the chests

[matejdro]

It would be cool. Maybe you put silk touch pickaxe into turtle's inventory and then use turtle.digWithItem() or something like that? It would consume pickaxe's durability like normal player would.

[Cloudy]

I don't see why we have to change our turtles behavior because another mod has changed theirs. If the ender pouch is a item in an inventory, then I doubt we will add special case interaction with it. And there are no current plans to have silk touched turtles.

Of course a peripheral could do it.

[matejdro]

I was thinking in general. For example you also cannot use fortune pickaxes which yeild more minerals.

Maybe you could craft turtle with enchanted pickaxe, but it will break after certain amount of time (turtle will turn into regular turtle)?

[Cloudy]

I think turtles using pickaxes would be way too OP.

[Sebra]

I'm afraid Ender Turtles (with Mojang Ender Chest as inventory) would be considered OP too. Even with inventory limited by 3*3 slots.

[Cloudy]

Sebra, on 29 September 2012 - 08:59 AM, said:

I'm afraid Ender Turtles (with Mojang Ender Chest as inventory) would be considered OP too. Even with inventory limited by 3*3 slots.

Not to mention that isn't even possible with the way that Mojang ender chests work (their inventory is linked to the player that opens it). It would be possible to store the name of the player who crafted it, but even that would be difficult.

[Sebra]

For Ender Turtles not only crafting player should be stored somehow, but also other players should be prohibited to open GUI of that turtle. No other ways to protect from stealing.

[immibis]

Sebra, on 29 September 2012 - 09:46 AM, said:

For Ender Turtles not only crafting player should be stored somehow, but also other players should be prohibited to open GUI of that turtle. No other ways to protect from stealing.

Why would they protect from stealing?

[matejdro]

Nah, vanilla ender chests are completely incompatible with any sort of automation because they are binded to players. Which sucks. I wish there was a config option if ender chests are per player or not.

But Ability to craft turtles with enchanting pickaxe into temporary mining turtles would be nice. I never really used enchanting system because drills from IC2 do their job, but with easier enchanting 1.3, I might give it a try.

[immibis]

matejdro, on 29 September 2012 - 01:48 PM, said:

Nah, vanilla ender chests are completely incompatible with any sort of automation because they are binded to players. Which sucks. I wish there was a config option if ender chests are per player or not.

How does that make them incompatible with automation? It just means you need a way to decide which player to use, like the player who crafted the turtle.

[portablejim]

Cloudy, on 29 September 2012 - 07:59 AM, said:

I don't see why we have to change our turtles behavior because another mod has changed theirs. If the ender pouch is a item in an inventory, then I doubt we will add special case interaction with it. And there are no current plans to have silk touched turtles.

Of course a peripheral could do it.

I guess the general problem is interactivg with an item in the inventory. The turtles cannot (and could not) interact with enderpouches before, however 'place an enderchest and use that' was a workaround that made the pouch problem not worth solving.

With it as a peripheral, could you have a wirless mining tutle with an enderchest peripheral?

[Sebra]

immibis, on 29 September 2012 - 11:11 AM, said:

Sebra, on 29 September 2012 - 09:46 AM, said:

For Ender Turtles not only crafting player should be stored somehow, but also other players should be prohibited to open GUI of that turtle. No other ways to protect from stealing.

Why would they protect from stealing?

Because turtle's inventory is a crafting player's ender chest's inventory. If someone steal your EnderTurtle he can steal from your Ender Chest all items all the time. Even if he unable to access turtle's inventory he can program turtle to drop anything to other chest.

portablejim, on 30 September 2012 - 03:24 AM, said:

I guess the general problem is interactivg with an item in the inventory. The turtles cannot (and could not) interact with enderpouches before, however 'place an enderchest and use that' was a workaround that made the pouch problem not worth solving.

Ender Chest from the mod can become breakable if Silk Touch not used. Though Silk Touch Turtle present already />

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With it as a peripheral, could you have a wirless mining tutle with an enderchest peripheral?

You probably need a special type of turtle for this. But doubt anyone except CC developers could do it.
So look at this half-joke suggestion:
Black Ninja - black colored turtle. Remembers its crafter instead of inventory. Inventory is 3*3 connected to Crafter's Ender Chest's left 3 columns. Has no GUI at all. Do not read disks at startup. Programmed by crafting it with Floppy Disk in players GUI (not in Crafting Tables). Explosion/Pickaxe resistant as Obsidian.
Recipe:
Obsidian Obsidian Obsidian
Obsidian Turtle Obsidian
Obsidian End.Chest Obsidian

[Luanub]

Someone has already added in a periph for silk touch turtles. Located here: http://www.computerc...-touch-turtles/

So it should not be an issue if they make the change to the ender chest. If its something you use get the periph and are worried about just get the periph.