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#21 KaoS

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 08:18 PM

 D3matt, on 19 November 2012 - 03:20 PM, said:

 KaoS, on 19 November 2012 - 04:55 AM, said:

this is a great idea. we need to sort out the spamming problem. is there no way to record the IP of someone who posts? if I ever ran a forum server I definitely would record all IPs... DDOS :(/>
Recording IPs is pointless. Spam bots very rarely post from the same IP, from my experience. And the IP very rarely belongs to the hacker, usually an innocent victim. And DDOS is not a tool for enforcing the law.

I'm gonna admit to being a ruthless bastard and say that I'm not concerned about the law or innocent bystanders. if someone wrongs me I stop them, that's just me

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 10:09 PM

Don't see why people would have a problem with entering a captcha once when they register (pretty standard on forums now anyways) - as long as it doesn't extend to logins :(/>

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 03:46 AM

There are plenty of websites that use captchas in their registration processes, it would be no problem for this forum to do the same.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:46 AM

 KaoS, on 19 November 2012 - 08:18 PM, said:

 D3matt, on 19 November 2012 - 03:20 PM, said:

 KaoS, on 19 November 2012 - 04:55 AM, said:

this is a great idea. we need to sort out the spamming problem. is there no way to record the IP of someone who posts? if I ever ran a forum server I definitely would record all IPs... DDOS :(/>
Recording IPs is pointless. Spam bots very rarely post from the same IP, from my experience. And the IP very rarely belongs to the hacker, usually an innocent victim. And DDOS is not a tool for enforcing the law.

I'm gonna admit to being a ruthless bastard and say that I'm not concerned about the law or innocent bystanders. if someone wrongs me I stop them, that's just me
Except in addition to being ruthless, it would be utterly and completely ineffective.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 11:48 AM

if people actually did it would eventually work. if people cannot think enough to install antivirus and antimalware and watch the links they click then they end up spamming others. once such people are removed we shouldn't have an issue. in my mind the perpetrators are guilty. those who allow them to do what they want are just as guilty

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 12:11 PM

 KaoS, on 20 November 2012 - 11:48 AM, said:

if people actually did it would eventually work. if people cannot think enough to install antivirus and antimalware and watch the links they click then they end up spamming others. once such people are removed we shouldn't have an issue. in my mind the perpetrators are guilty. those who allow them to do what they want are just as guilty
If you block the IP AFTER they post, you've done nothing useful.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 03:58 PM

It seems that either it has not worked, or some of these accounts have been laying dormant for some time.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 06:43 PM

They are just having a tea party :3 trust me, we be doomed.

#29 Espen

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 12:35 AM

Maybe in addition to entering a captcha, a little context-knowledge might go a long(er) way?
I.e. I'v seen on other forums that they ask you Minecraft-related questions, like:
Who created Minecraft? -> Notch
What is used to connect levers to pistons? -> redstone
Are fences a solid block? -> no
etc.

That at least should cut off any automated spammers who's operators either don't know the context-knowledge or the ones who won't invest the extra time to create a table with question<->answer pairs for their bots, just to get into the 136th website on their spam-list.

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 01:50 AM

 D3matt, on 20 November 2012 - 12:11 PM, said:

 KaoS, on 20 November 2012 - 11:48 AM, said:

if people actually did it would eventually work. if people cannot think enough to install antivirus and antimalware and watch the links they click then they end up spamming others. once such people are removed we shouldn't have an issue. in my mind the perpetrators are guilty. those who allow them to do what they want are just as guilty
If you block the IP AFTER they post, you've done nothing useful.

that is not what I am referring to. do not block them from the forums, render their internet useless so they cannot continue to spam. eventually you will have eliminated the problem. DDOS is not a long term solution as you would have to keep it up, I would prefer other methods

#31 Cranium

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 05:14 AM

Wow....if the captcha is enabled, then it is definitely not working. Porn post directly above.

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 05:35 AM

 Espen, on 21 November 2012 - 12:35 AM, said:

Maybe in addition to entering a captcha, a little context-knowledge might go a long(er) way?
I.e. I'v seen on other forums that they ask you Minecraft-related questions, like:
Who created Minecraft? -> Notch
What is used to connect levers to pistons? -> redstone
Are fences a solid block? -> no
etc.

That at least should cut off any automated spammers who's operators either don't know the context-knowledge or the ones who won't invest the extra time to create a table with question<->answer pairs for their bots, just to get into the 136th website on their spam-list.
You also need to write 'Notch' when registering.

#33 Doyle3694

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 04:44 AM

any news on spambots? Seen 2 earlier today, just saw one, all 3 are reported. Have something been recently changed for easier registration, or anything like that?

EDIT: 4th one....

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 06:25 AM

 Doyle3694, on 04 January 2013 - 04:44 AM, said:

any news on spambots? Seen 2 earlier today, just saw one, all 3 are reported. Have something been recently changed for easier registration, or anything like that?

EDIT: 4th one....

I talked to Cloudy. He's trying to figure out a way to block all users who use Tor.

#35 KaoS

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 06:29 AM

 Doyle3694, on 04 January 2013 - 04:44 AM, said:

any news on spambots? Seen 2 earlier today, just saw one, all 3 are reported. Have something been recently changed for easier registration, or anything like that?

EDIT: 4th one....

if you look at the accounts used to post the spam you may notice that they were registered long ago. the new methods should work but it will take time to weed out the sleeping spam accounts

#36 Cranium

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 07:07 AM

 KaoS, on 04 January 2013 - 06:29 AM, said:

if you look at the accounts used to post the spam you may notice that they were registered long ago. the new methods should work but it will take time to weed out the sleeping spam accounts
Actually, many of these spammers say that they just joined not more than 24 hours ago...

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 07:43 AM

some register accounts a week / day in advance to avoid post restrictions
some also post 4 random things before dumping le spam

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 06:17 AM

spam post used to be above here
most just dump TL;DR posts on random threads ;_;

#39 Cranium

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 06:20 AM

^^^^that right there^^^^
That is what I am talking about. It seems that this account was created today at 9:33 am, CDT.
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#40 Cranium

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 09:38 AM

So, quite some time has passed since we started seeing spam on the forums. I see that we now use a reCaptcha and a security question,
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but it seems that it is not enough to stop them, as new accounts are being made every day. Is there any other way we can prevent the spam? It's getting ridiculous, and the idea of "Just ignoring it" does not really appeal to me.





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