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#101 theoriginalbit

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 03:33 PM

Maybe keyword blocking may come in handy too... for example I dont ever see any point to someone on this forum posting the word "viagra" so that could go on the list of words, then thats about 30% of the spam stopped...

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 03:38 PM

View PostTheOriginalBIT, on 19 January 2013 - 03:33 PM, said:

Maybe keyword blocking may come in handy too... for example I dont ever see any point to someone on this forum posting the word "viagra" so that could go on the list of words, then thats about 30% of the spam stopped...
uggboot would remove another ~30%

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 03:50 PM

View PostBigSHinyToys, on 19 January 2013 - 03:38 PM, said:

View PostTheOriginalBIT, on 19 January 2013 - 03:33 PM, said:

Maybe keyword blocking may come in handy too... for example I dont ever see any point to someone on this forum posting the word "viagra" so that could go on the list of words, then thats about 30% of the spam stopped...
uggboot would remove another 30%
More like 50%

#104 D3matt

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 04:24 PM

One way that I've seen done before is to block newly registered users from posting links. If somebody with less than 5 posts tries to post a link (Maybe we can allow links to certain whitelisted websites like Pastebin so new users can post their programs still), they are prevented from making the post (otherwise the spam would still go through, just sans link)

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 05:02 PM

also if a pattern match for "jerseygz65" where the 65 can be any number would stop a heap, then lastly a check for any non-english ( mainly Russian ) text and done... thats 99% of spam gone! :P

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 05:06 PM

View PostTheOriginalBIT, on 19 January 2013 - 05:02 PM, said:

mainly Russian
Also Japanese.

#107 theoriginalbit

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 05:17 PM

And louis vuitton... there is a heap of those too...

#108 Cranium

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 05:31 PM

http://puu.sh/1PyfJ
And this is how they get around most of what you guys just said......

#109 BigSHinyToys

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 05:51 PM

if user posts < 5 and user post Contains Urls's Other than pastebin and ((user post contain language other than English or list of keywords) or user post contain less that 50% words) and post is reported as Spam more than two times by users that have more than a hundred posts then delete posts and suspend user.
That could cut down quite a bit of it at least.

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 06:28 PM

View PostCranium, on 19 January 2013 - 05:31 PM, said:

http://puu.sh/1PyfJ
And this is how they get around most of what you guys just said......
True... but we would see a large decrease until the bots figured out to do that... :P

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 06:33 PM

View PostTheOriginalBIT, on 19 January 2013 - 06:28 PM, said:

True... but we would see a large decrease until the bots figured out to do that... :P
I doubt it. I still think preventing the account creation is more effective than blocking keywords or posts, or links.

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 07:19 PM

View PostCranium, on 19 January 2013 - 06:33 PM, said:

I doubt it. I still think preventing the account creation is more effective than blocking keywords or posts, or links.
In a prefect world it would be great to stop them before they make an account the problem is that computers are as smart as humans is some areas and some humans have trouble solving what a computer could do easily. by increasing the difficulty of making an account you are dis discouraging users from computer craft and that is a big side affect. the best we can do is look for patterns in behavior and work from that. combining multiple aspects that all amount to a spam post.

the funniest part is one day the spam will be so sophisticated it will actually be a useful member of the community ;) we can only hope.

It would be nice to know why this is going on at least. If you are the person doing this please stop. I am appealing to your sense of reason and ask that you stop this campaign. You have had your fun and proven you can now please stop. If there is something we did to annoy you please tell us. We the community are not bad people we just enjoy computer craft and want to communicate with other users please stop. You can even join the community and engage in intellectual destruction.

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 08:16 PM

View PostBigSHinyToys, on 19 January 2013 - 07:19 PM, said:

In a prefect world it would be great to stop them before they make an account
In a perfect world, they wouldn't exist.
Keep dreamin', pal.

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 03:25 AM

View PostD3matt, on 19 January 2013 - 04:24 PM, said:

One way that I've seen done before is to block newly registered users from posting links. If somebody with less than 5 posts tries to post a link (Maybe we can allow links to certain whitelisted websites like Pastebin so new users can post their programs still), they are prevented from making the post (otherwise the spam would still go through, just sans link)
Yes, I've said that a few times before but actual ideas how to prevent spam seem to be ignored.

I would just suggest denying posts containing links (other than pastebin) for the user group clueless.

#115 Dlcruz129

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 04:08 AM

I think moderators should have to approve a user's first few posts.

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 09:46 AM

View PostTheOriginalBIT, on 19 January 2013 - 03:50 PM, said:

View PostBigSHinyToys, on 19 January 2013 - 03:38 PM, said:

View PostTheOriginalBIT, on 19 January 2013 - 03:33 PM, said:

Maybe keyword blocking may come in handy too... for example I dont ever see any point to someone on this forum posting the word "viagra" so that could go on the list of words, then thats about 30% of the spam stopped...
uggboot would remove another 30%
More like 50%
Yeah and also Prada handbags since I doubt it has anything to do with this forum... Or has it? :P
And I don't think you should be able to put Links like
www.primarylouisvuittonsale.comkh55
www.bestfeelingmulberry.co.ukgb11
www.varioustypesuggs.co.ukyl11

On the forum.
And all the spam is always getting posted in General,
I mean seriously everytime I look there it's always new spam!

#117 theoriginalbit

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 10:33 AM

View PostHellkid98, on 20 January 2013 - 09:46 AM, said:

And all the spam is always getting posted in General,
I mean seriously everytime I look there it's always new spam!
General, Programs, Bugs, Suggestions, and recently started up, Ask a Pro... But yes, mainly General...

#118 ardera

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 08:52 PM

What about questions about CC at registering? I don't think that these spammers know what CC is. They could google it, but I don't think that they would find out so much...

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 09:18 PM

View Postardera, on 20 January 2013 - 08:52 PM, said:

What about questions about CC at registering? I don't think that these spammers know what CC is. They could google it, but I don't think that they would find out so much...
If they don't watch some of it on youtube or something...

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 09:44 PM

How about we just add a
User-agent: *
Disallow: /
to the robots.txt and hope for the best? </joke>

View PostDlcruz129, on 20 January 2013 - 04:08 AM, said:

I think moderators should have to approve a user's first few posts.
While that would definitely work, it would probably clog up the system with new user posts. Not to mention the "I want a solution and I want it now!!!!" mentality of new user Ask a Pro posts. I've just had to register an account and jump through all those hoops, and now I have to get my post approved?!





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