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[brett122798]

pielover88888, on 12 January 2013 - 02:23 PM, said:

This is a incredibly interesting, civilizished argument/conversation..

Incredibly frustrating.

[theoriginalbit]

pielover88888, on 12 January 2013 - 02:23 PM, said:

This is a incredibly interesting, civilizished argument/conversation..

Yeh not really civilised... one half is hilarious (me), the other is well not listening to anything the rest is saying (brett) and the other is making their case (Heracles)

[brett122798]

TheOriginalBIT, on 12 January 2013 - 02:28 PM, said:

pielover88888, on 12 January 2013 - 02:23 PM, said:

This is a incredibly interesting, civilizished argument/conversation..

Yeh not really civilised... one half is hilarious (me), the other is well not listening to anything the rest is saying (brett) and the other is making their case (Heracles)

You know, I think everyone would have their own opinion on this.

For example, you might get a kick outta this, but a few months ago, I was running a Tekkit private server with me and my friends. Well, my friend had a Power Flower and he was duplicating diamonds it in. While he was gone, it had filled up. So I decided, instead of wasting precious EMC, to take 15 stacks of diamonds and by the time he would get back, they'd all regenerate. So a few days later, I inform him of this and he gets ANGRY! It became a huge argument between us, so I decided to take the case to the Minecraft Forums. I made a topic explaining the whole thing and people's opinions were split about 50/50.

[Skullblade]

1) brett: calm down and stop acting like a 10 year old. He might have 'taken' "your" idea but he provided MORE then enough credit to you since he had a completely different way of making the program and the idea wasn't even yours it was a patented idea of APPLE's. calm down and stop feeling threatened by any competition, its the reason why the great economy's of the world grow!
2)Hercule: GREAT job! I love the clean interface, loading bar, and scrolling.
A couple suggestions
-(old) replace | to \n to add minor formatting
-Add colors
-Look at how siri "responds" when its loading a program. It responds with "Let me check on that for you" and other variations. While this is just a personal preference it makes it seem more "intelligent"
-the press x to search covers up part of input

Love it keep up the great work'

EDIT: oh and an exit button ctrl+t is annoying

[theoriginalbit]

Skullblade, on 12 January 2013 - 04:29 PM, said:

1) brett: calm down and stop acting like a 10 year old. He might have 'taken' "your" idea but he provided MORE then enough credit to you since he had a completely different way of making the program and the idea wasn't even yours it was a patented idea of APPLE's. calm down and stop feeling threatened by any competition, its the reason why the great economy's of the world grow!
2)Hercule: GREAT job! I love the clean interface, loading bar, and scrolling.
A couple suggestions
-(old) replace | to \n to add minor formatting
-Add colors
-Look at how siri "responds" when its loading a program. It responds with "Let me check on that for you" and other variations. While this is just a personal preference it makes it seem more "intelligent"
-the press x to search covers up part of input

Love it keep up the great work

I've updated his XML interpreter so that data handling is better, however when I was looking at your old suggestion of replacing | with \n I found in some cases it won't look good... for example search Steve Jobs, and take a look...

I also noticed that x bug and told him about it before

[Skullblade]

yeah your right BIT...would it be easy to click a button after you get the results and have it replace the |. Then you can view it normally but if its a definition or other thing that could format you could have it format. user determined system?

[theoriginalbit]

Skullblade, on 12 January 2013 - 04:40 PM, said:

yeah your right BIT...would it be easy to click a button after you get the results and have it replace the |. Then you can view it normally but if its a definition or other thing that could format you could have it format. user determined system?

Maybe... or... hmmm I wonder... give me an example of a few of your search phrases please, I have an idea that might, I say might, work, depending on how the data works

[Skullblade]

basically any one word that just gets defined... ex computer, person, world

then they could format it only when they want to and if there is a formatting error they could just un-format. it would work find on computer and person if you can find a way to configure it too keep things like |noun|...would work less well on world but it wouldn't be terrible. The problem is that there is not much of a standard format for wolfram

[theoriginalbit]

ahhh damn, it does a similar thing... just searched "computer" and this is a subset of the result

[color=#000000][font=monospace][size=3]
<pod title="Definitions" scanner="Data" id="Definition:WordData" position="200" error="false" numsubpods="1" primary="true">[/size][/font][/color]
[color=#000000][font=monospace][size=3][indent=1]


<subpod title="">
[indent=1]


<plaintext>
[indent=1]1 | noun | a machine for performing calculations automatically 2 | noun | an expert at calculation or operating calculating machines[/indent]
</plaintext>[/indent]
</subpod>[/size][/font][/color][/indent][color=#000000][font=monospace][size=3]
</pod>[/size][/font][/color]

notice the "automatically 2"

if it did it different i could have just had it search for "Definitions" and format | with \n

[theoriginalbit]

well that failed.... and I can't even edit the post... it brings up js code for some reason.... lol... hopefully you can read around it all and see what it does

[brett122798]

Skullblade, on 12 January 2013 - 04:29 PM, said:

1) brett: calm down and stop acting like a 10 year old. He might have 'taken' "your" idea but he provided MORE then enough credit to you since he had a completely different way of making the program and the idea wasn't even yours it was a patented idea of APPLE's. calm down and stop feeling threatened by any competition, its the reason why the great economy's of the world grow!

Picture This: You are developing a program and you decide to post your progress on development. Then before you manage to put your program together, someone else has posted a program with the same idea as yours and you can obviously see that the person had copied your idea.

How would you feel?

[Skullblade]

yeah your right it might be more work then its work.... the only way it would really work is if you carried over the digits (the 2)..before the |noun| tot he next line, but now that I'm looking more at how they deliver their results and it gets less and less feasible

sorry if i wasted your time

[theoriginalbit]

Skullblade, on 12 January 2013 - 04:56 PM, said:

yeah your right it might be more work then its work.... the only way it would really work is if you carried over the digits (the 2)..before the |noun| tot he next line, but now that I'm looking more at how they deliver their results and it gets less and less feasible

sorry if i wasted your time

Nah its ok, suggestions are good... it helps make good programs... just this particular suggestion is impossible due to the way the api delivers info... really i think getting this down to what is displayed is a good job on its own... even adding the titles is hard... working on that atm... so it would actually say "Definitions" or related...

And hey, if you can figure out a way to do it, that splits it correctly 90% of the time, then tell us... but I cant see a way. :/

[Skullblade]

brett honestly I would feel flattered that

brett122798, on 12 January 2013 - 04:55 PM, said:

Skullblade, on 12 January 2013 - 04:29 PM, said:

1) brett: calm down and stop acting like a 10 year old. He might have 'taken' "your" idea but he provided MORE then enough credit to you since he had a completely different way of making the program and the idea wasn't even yours it was a patented idea of APPLE's. calm down and stop feeling threatened by any competition, its the reason why the great economy's of the world grow!

Picture This: You are developing a program and you decide to post your progress on development. Then before you manage to put your program together, someone else has posted a program with the same idea as yours and you can obviously see that the person had copied your idea.

How would you feel?

Brett I would feel honored that someone looked at my idea and thought that it was good enough to try to do themselves. I would also take it as my personal mission to work as hard as possible to make my program the very best that it can be.
One another note he barely copied your idea because he 1) made his own code 2) used a completely different approach.
Also brett your idea isn't that original...when I first got CC after literally 1 hour of typing my heart out on door locks I had the idea of a siri...and i worked on it...for like 30 then gave up because i was a noob.

But back to the point allot of the people are fine with other people using their programs in the other persons program with(sometimes without) permission, and that's how this community works, we share ideas and learn from each other and most people don't take kindly when someone is flaming about (just barely) taking a idea

[Skullblade]

TheOriginalBIT, on 12 January 2013 - 04:59 PM, said:

Skullblade, on 12 January 2013 - 04:56 PM, said:

yeah your right it might be more work then its work.... the only way it would really work is if you carried over the digits (the 2)..before the |noun| tot he next line, but now that I'm looking more at how they deliver their results and it gets less and less feasible

sorry if i wasted your time

Nah its ok, suggestions are good... it helps make good programs... just this particular suggestion is impossible due to the way the api delivers info... really i think getting this down to what is displayed is a good job on its own... even adding the titles is hard... working on that atm... so it would actually say "Definitions" or related...

And hey, if you can figure out a way to do it, that splits it correctly 90% of the time, then tell us... but I cant see a way. :/

Dude I've looked at the program and the wolfram's XML its hard and good job doing what you have done so far...it is defiantly beyond me in some places and impressive

[brett122798]

Skullblade, on 12 January 2013 - 05:04 PM, said:

brett honestly I would feel flattered that

brett122798, on 12 January 2013 - 04:55 PM, said:

Skullblade, on 12 January 2013 - 04:29 PM, said:

1) brett: calm down and stop acting like a 10 year old. He might have 'taken' "your" idea but he provided MORE then enough credit to you since he had a completely different way of making the program and the idea wasn't even yours it was a patented idea of APPLE's. calm down and stop feeling threatened by any competition, its the reason why the great economy's of the world grow!

Picture This: You are developing a program and you decide to post your progress on development. Then before you manage to put your program together, someone else has posted a program with the same idea as yours and you can obviously see that the person had copied your idea.

How would you feel?

Brett I would feel honored that someone looked at my idea and thought that it was good enough to try to do themselves. I would also take it as my personal mission to work as hard as possible to make my program the very best that it can be.
One another note he barely copied your idea because he 1) made his own code 2) used a completely different approach.
Also brett your idea isn't that original...when I first got CC after literally 1 hour of typing my heart out on door locks I had the idea of a siri...and i worked on it...for like 30 then gave up because i was a noob.

But back to the point allot of the people are fine with other people using their programs in the other persons program with(sometimes without) permission, and that's how this community works, we share ideas and learn from each other and most people don't take kindly when someone is flaming about (just barely) taking a idea

Whatever. I just don't take it kindly and nobody respects that a single bit.

[Skullblade]

Okay i see were your coming from sorry for being so aggressive.

BTW i would love to see your siri program and what it can do? can it interact with the minecraft world?

[theoriginalbit]

Skullblade, on 12 January 2013 - 05:09 PM, said:

Okay i see were your coming from sorry for being so aggressive.

BTW i would love to see your siri program and what it can do? can it interact with the minecraft world?

It doesn't exist, this was part of the debate

brett122798, on 12 January 2013 - 05:07 PM, said:

Whatever. I just don't take it kindly and nobody respects that a single bit.

Maybe you aren't suited to an open forum then... maybe you should just program for yourself, then the only person you have to blame for stolen ideas is you and maybe some cats...

[Skullblade]

TheOriginalBIT, on 12 January 2013 - 05:10 PM, said:

Skullblade, on 12 January 2013 - 05:09 PM, said:

Okay i see were your coming from sorry for being so aggressive.

BTW i would love to see your siri program and what it can do? can it interact with the minecraft world?

It doesn't exist, this was part of the debate

brett122798, on 12 January 2013 - 05:07 PM, said:

Whatever. I just don't take it kindly and nobody respects that a single bit.

Maybe you aren't suited to an open forum then... maybe you should just program for yourself, then the only person you have to blame for stolen ideas is you and maybe some cats...

.....LOL ...

if it doesn't even exist what did he lose...

[brett122798]

Skullblade, on 12 January 2013 - 05:09 PM, said:

Okay i see were your coming from sorry for being so aggressive.

BTW i would love to see your siri program and what it can do? can it interact with the minecraft world?

I have stopped development due to do this. It's commands were going to have nothing to do with the real world, unlike Wolfram Alpha. Like, Minecraft time, CC file system, etc..

Skullblade, on 12 January 2013 - 05:11 PM, said:

if it doesn't even exist what did he lose...

It does exist, it's in development, or was.

TheOriginalBIT, on 12 January 2013 - 05:10 PM, said:

Maybe you aren't suited to an open forum then... maybe you should just program for yourself, then the only person you have to blame for stolen ideas is you and maybe some cats...

Maybe not. But at the same time, I would like to enjoy the benefits of the forums. Apparently that is too much to ask for.