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#61 brett122798

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 01:43 PM

 Heracles421, on 12 January 2013 - 01:40 PM, said:

Ok, then you rip off apple's idea, you even have the exact same name for the program as them! It's exactly the same
This is a game that I've provided with some free software for fun, different than a company that SELLS a device with the program.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 01:43 PM

 brett122798, on 12 January 2013 - 01:39 PM, said:

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I was OBVIOUSLY the first person to make a post on these forums to make Siri. I mean, you even have just about the same named program for crying out loud! Sounds the same except for the extra C.
A little bit of friendly competition wont hurt anyone... and if everyone was like you are being right now we would ONLY have one type of personal computer and it would be Apple, and ONE type of business computer which would be IBM... we would ONLY have C as a programming language... we would ONLY have blackberries as our 'Smart Phones'... and MANY more.... And finally we would not have your little idea that was stolen from Apple! Maybe we should get Apple in on this conversation and see how they feel about you saying that it was your idea...

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 01:47 PM

 TheOriginalBIT, on 12 January 2013 - 01:43 PM, said:

 brett122798, on 12 January 2013 - 01:39 PM, said:

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I was OBVIOUSLY the first person to make a post on these forums to make Siri. I mean, you even have just about the same named program for crying out loud! Sounds the same except for the extra C.
A little bit of friendly competition wont hurt anyone... and if everyone was like you are being right now we would ONLY have one type of personal computer and it would be Apple, and ONE type of business computer which would be IBM... we would ONLY have C as a programming language... we would ONLY have blackberries as our 'Smart Phones'... and MANY more.... And finally we would not have your little idea that was stolen from Apple! Maybe we should get Apple in on this conversation and see how they feel about you saying that it was your idea...
Okay, let's get Apple in this, and all the other stolen ideas and get everyone in prison, shall we?

There's obviously something different in this situation.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 01:48 PM

Enough said, I won't remove this program, neither will do an admin because it's original, you don't have released code yet, you only had an idea, I am the first one to post the code, therefore I did not steal the program, nor the idea, because there is no actual program from you, and I gave you credit, the idea is general

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 01:49 PM

 Heracles421, on 12 January 2013 - 01:48 PM, said:

Enough said, I won't remove this program, neither will do an admin because it's original, you don't have released code yet, you only had an idea, I am the first one to post the code, therefore I did not steal the program, nor the idea, because there is no actual program from you, and I gave you credit, the idea is general
So what happens when I post my version?

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 01:50 PM

 brett122798, on 12 January 2013 - 01:47 PM, said:

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There's obviously something different in this situation.
No its not... thats the point I'm trying to get through your head... it is no different... well actually yes there is something different, they all have license agreements and contracts and patents, you don't...



 brett122798, on 12 January 2013 - 01:49 PM, said:

 Heracles421, on 12 January 2013 - 01:48 PM, said:

Enough said, I won't remove this program, neither will do an admin because it's original, you don't have released code yet, you only had an idea, I am the first one to post the code, therefore I did not steal the program, nor the idea, because there is no actual program from you, and I gave you credit, the idea is general
So what happens when I post my version?
Then you have made an IN-GAME Siri... So I guess people would love it and download it...

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 01:51 PM

 brett122798, on 12 January 2013 - 01:49 PM, said:

 Heracles421, on 12 January 2013 - 01:48 PM, said:

Enough said, I won't remove this program, neither will do an admin because it's original, you don't have released code yet, you only had an idea, I am the first one to post the code, therefore I did not steal the program, nor the idea, because there is no actual program from you, and I gave you credit, the idea is general
So what happens when I post my version?
I could say you copied me because you stole my idea! No, actually I won't, because as I said before, ETHICS. In a company, the first one to put a product out and patent it wins, even if the idea came from another company

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 01:51 PM

 TheOriginalBIT, on 12 January 2013 - 01:50 PM, said:

 brett122798, on 12 January 2013 - 01:47 PM, said:

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There's obviously something different in this situation.
No its not... thats the point I'm trying to get through your head... it is no different... well actually yes there is something different, they all have license agreements and contracts and patents, you don't...
Well you'd think it'd be common sense to ask the original developer for permission have have their own version, right? Or am I missing something?

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 01:52 PM

 brett122798, on 12 January 2013 - 01:51 PM, said:

 TheOriginalBIT, on 12 January 2013 - 01:50 PM, said:

 brett122798, on 12 January 2013 - 01:47 PM, said:

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There's obviously something different in this situation.
No its not... thats the point I'm trying to get through your head... it is no different... well actually yes there is something different, they all have license agreements and contracts and patents, you don't...
Well you'd think it'd be common sense to ask the original developer for permission have have their own version, right? Or am I missing something?
You're missing something, indeed. You are developing, nothing released yet

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 01:53 PM

 Heracles421, on 12 January 2013 - 01:51 PM, said:

 brett122798, on 12 January 2013 - 01:49 PM, said:

 Heracles421, on 12 January 2013 - 01:48 PM, said:

Enough said, I won't remove this program, neither will do an admin because it's original, you don't have released code yet, you only had an idea, I am the first one to post the code, therefore I did not steal the program, nor the idea, because there is no actual program from you, and I gave you credit, the idea is general
So what happens when I post my version?
I could say you copied me because you stole my idea! No, actually I won't, because as I said before, ETHICS. In a company, the first one to put a product out and patent it wins, even if the idea came from another company
You see, you couldn't possibly say that because I came up with the original idea and I gave you no permission to make this. I don't understand why you didn't notify me of this at all, why not?

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 01:55 PM

 Heracles421, on 12 January 2013 - 01:52 PM, said:

 brett122798, on 12 January 2013 - 01:51 PM, said:

 TheOriginalBIT, on 12 January 2013 - 01:50 PM, said:

 brett122798, on 12 January 2013 - 01:47 PM, said:

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There's obviously something different in this situation.
No its not... thats the point I'm trying to get through your head... it is no different... well actually yes there is something different, they all have license agreements and contracts and patents, you don't...
Well you'd think it'd be common sense to ask the original developer for permission have have their own version, right? Or am I missing something?
You're missing something, indeed. You are developing, nothing released yet
Okay, I'm pretty sure once you post a development post, you've kinda staked a claim. Even if not, it's rude.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 01:58 PM

 brett122798, on 12 January 2013 - 01:53 PM, said:

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You see, you couldn't possibly say that because I came up with the original idea and I gave you no permission to make this. I don't understand why you didn't notify me of this at all, why not?
Ok, some things: I told you about this, you could be in the debs team right now, but you wanted to stick to one idea, not to open your mind and make that idea bigger and bigger. I gave you the opportunity to have this code, and you wasted it. Now, you didn't come up with the original idea, as stated above Steve Jobs did, so you're ripping off his idea. Other thing, I don't need permission to release something if it's mine, I coded all of this with help of TheOriginalBIT and remiX. If someone else wants to use this code/part of it then they NEED our approval, but not if they code from scratch as I did. And yes, I did notify you, so stop saying I didn't. I won't reply anymore to your messages unless they have something good to tell about this. Final answer

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 02:00 PM

 Heracles421, on 12 January 2013 - 01:58 PM, said:

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I coded all of this with help of TheOriginalBIT and remiX.

Wooo go me! :P

 brett122798, on 12 January 2013 - 01:55 PM, said:

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Okay, I'm pretty sure once you post a development post, you've kinda staked a claim. Even if not, it's rude.
He didn't "stake a claim"

In the OP:

brett122798 - Original idea

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 02:08 PM

 Heracles421, on 12 January 2013 - 01:58 PM, said:

 brett122798, on 12 January 2013 - 01:53 PM, said:

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You see, you couldn't possibly say that because I came up with the original idea and I gave you no permission to make this. I don't understand why you didn't notify me of this at all, why not?
Ok, some things: I told you about this, you could be in the debs team right now, but you wanted to stick to one idea, not to open your mind and make that idea bigger and bigger. I gave you the opportunity to have this code, and you wasted it. Now, you didn't come up with the original idea, as stated above Steve Jobs did, so you're ripping off his idea. Other thing, I don't need permission to release something if it's mine, I coded all of this with help of TheOriginalBIT and remiX. If someone else wants to use this code/part of it then they NEED our approval, but not if they code from scratch as I did. And yes, I did notify you, so stop saying I didn't. I won't reply anymore to your messages unless they have something good to tell about this. Final answer
Absolutely 100% rude. Unbelievable. It was such a mistake to have you as a "developer" and rip me off. And where did you notify me, sir?


I don't know whether to give up all my code and declare that as pure wasted time or to try to work my butt off and surpass this Siri. Well, whatever, there's just no justice in this case and I'm up against somebody with no feelings. Eh.. I better start another project to get ripped off..

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 02:11 PM

 brett122798, on 12 January 2013 - 02:08 PM, said:

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I don't know whether to give up all my code and declare that as pure wasted time or to try to work my butt off and surpass this Siri. Well, whatever, there's just no justice in this case and I'm up against somebody with no feelings. Eh.. I better start another project to get ripped off..

I say keep going... Competition is a good thing... its what drives us as a civilisation to improve what we have and be 'better' than the other guy...

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 02:14 PM

 Heracles421, on 09 January 2013 - 07:07 PM, said:

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Need it bigger?

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 02:15 PM

 TheOriginalBIT, on 12 January 2013 - 02:11 PM, said:

 brett122798, on 12 January 2013 - 02:08 PM, said:

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I don't know whether to give up all my code and declare that as pure wasted time or to try to work my butt off and surpass this Siri. Well, whatever, there's just no justice in this case and I'm up against somebody with no feelings. Eh.. I better start another project to get ripped off..

I say keep going... Competition is a good thing... its what drives us as a civilisation to improve what we have and be 'better' than the other guy...
I most likely won't, I don't want to put all the time an effort just to get "Hey, dude, you copied that other guy that made it first!"


 Heracles421, on 12 January 2013 - 02:14 PM, said:

 Heracles421, on 09 January 2013 - 07:07 PM, said:

Credits:
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Need it bigger?

Uhh.. not the point, but thanks I suppose.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 02:18 PM

 brett122798, on 12 January 2013 - 02:15 PM, said:

I most likely won't, I don't want to put all the time an effort just to get "Hey, dude, you copied that other guy that made it first!"
But then you could be like... "Uhhh dude, look at his credits... derp on you mate..."

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 02:22 PM

 TheOriginalBIT, on 12 January 2013 - 02:18 PM, said:

 brett122798, on 12 January 2013 - 02:15 PM, said:

I most likely won't, I don't want to put all the time an effort just to get "Hey, dude, you copied that other guy that made it first!"
But then you could be like... "Uhhh dude, look at his credits... derp on you mate..."
I don't know, it still seems weird to see two out of the ordinary programs on a single page.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 02:23 PM

This is a incredibly interesting, civilizished argument/conversation..





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