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[Creeper9207]

He's working on it again! Yes!

[oeed]

Yeah, so firstly, the suspected resolution confirmed



Secondly, I have a feeling the hour glass might be indicating when it'll be out. Oh Dan you sneaky bugger



In Silica news: I've decided to call the Silica based OS 'Quartz' (quartz is a mineral composed of silica), it's under top secret wraps, but it's gonna be freakin' awesome.

Finally, post number 2000. Woot woot!

[ScoutCD10]

That's great! Finally a new CraftOS 2.0 sneak peek screenshot! 320x300 resolution confirmed!
When it comes out i will start to recreate Jet Set Willy

[CaosTECH]

This looks awesome... I can't wait to see all the new features

[Creeper9207]

*downloads silica, no room to download anything else*

[oeed]

Actually, I've just noticed something else...






Current screen coordinates... a cursor...?

I'm placing a bet on mouse_moved or something similar. Mightn't seem huge, but it is really. Mouse hover effects, mouse enter/exit events, context based cursors (loading cursors, etc.) and cool stuff for games.

[Creator]

In my opinion it would be reasonable to get mouse_moved events AND window.getMousePos()

Edited by Creator, 02 January 2016 - 10:37 PM.

[Creeper9207]

3d FP Games can be a reality now

[MagicCraftMaster]

Honestly i would just like to see this added to ComputerCraft especially if it is optional tiny pixels it would unlock so many possibilities. for instance if it is tiny pixel with a new program you could create custom Character sets and game sprites would be a thing. even if this is not intended for computercraft i think it should be a feature for the computers and programmers it would be one of the greatest thing to happen yet. Dan200 please be generous and add this or tiny pixels to your mod.

[Bomb Bloke]

MagicCraftMaster, on 02 January 2016 - 08:46 PM, said:

Dan200 please be generous and add this or tiny pixels to your mod.

Many server owners would probably say, "please be generous, and don't!".

Currently it's possible to represent a regular ComputerCraft display using 1,938 bytes (assuming the data isn't compressed, and assuming it's packaged without wastage). That's for a 51x19 character display requiring two bytes to represent each character (one for the symbol, the other for the text and background colours).

A 320x200 pixel display, on the other hand, would require half a byte per pixel (assuming the same colour depth)... which adds up to 32,000 bytes (over sixteen times the data). Couple that with everything else that goes on in a Minecraft world, and the load on servers adds up.

[SquidDev]

No "new features", but some interesting implementation detail: these three tweets suggest there is some .Net/C/Lua interop going on, which implies that the core is written in .Net, with a conventional Lua VM (rather than a pute Java or .Net implementation). If its written in .Net there might be some scope for plugins, but we will have to see .

[oeed]

SquidDev, on 07 January 2016 - 09:01 PM, said:

No "new features", but some interesting implementation detail: these three tweets suggest there is some .Net/C/Lua interop going on, which implies that the core is written in .Net, with a conventional Lua VM (rather than a pute Java or .Net implementation). If its written in .Net there might be some scope for plugins, but we will have to see .

I'm still just praying he uses LuaJIT.

There isn't any form of hardware acceleration or GPU access in Lua is there? It does seem a bit restrictive doing everything on CPU.

[apemanzilla]

oeed, on 07 January 2016 - 10:16 PM, said:

SquidDev, on 07 January 2016 - 09:01 PM, said:

No "new features", but some interesting implementation detail: these three tweets suggest there is some .Net/C/Lua interop going on, which implies that the core is written in .Net, with a conventional Lua VM (rather than a pute Java or .Net implementation). If its written in .Net there might be some scope for plugins, but we will have to see .

I'm still just praying he uses LuaJIT.

There isn't any form of hardware acceleration or GPU access in Lua is there? It does seem a bit restrictive doing everything on CPU.

Funny you should ask, I had been looking at OpenCL for Lua recently if that's what you mean. Also, there's LuaGL which lets you use OpenGL.

[3d6]

Bomb Bloke, on 03 January 2016 - 02:19 AM, said:

MagicCraftMaster, on 02 January 2016 - 08:46 PM, said:

Dan200 please be generous and add this or tiny pixels to your mod.

Many server owners would probably say, "please be generous, and don't!".

Currently it's possible to represent a regular ComputerCraft display using 1,938 bytes (assuming the data isn't compressed, and assuming it's packaged without wastage). That's for a 51x19 character display requiring two bytes to represent each character (one for the symbol, the other for the text and background colours).

A 320x200 pixel display, on the other hand, would require half a byte per pixel (assuming the same colour depth)... which adds up to 32,000 bytes (over sixteen times the data). Couple that with everything else that goes on in a Minecraft world, and the load on servers adds up.

It could be a system where tiles and their palettes are defined and drawn onto the screen as though they were characters. Everything in the screenshot appears to be in little 8x8 tiles with no more than 8 different colors in each.

[CaosTECH]

3d6, on 08 January 2016 - 12:31 AM, said:

Bomb Bloke, on 03 January 2016 - 02:19 AM, said:

MagicCraftMaster, on 02 January 2016 - 08:46 PM, said:

Dan200 please be generous and add this or tiny pixels to your mod.

Many server owners would probably say, "please be generous, and don't!".

Currently it's possible to represent a regular ComputerCraft display using 1,938 bytes (assuming the data isn't compressed, and assuming it's packaged without wastage). That's for a 51x19 character display requiring two bytes to represent each character (one for the symbol, the other for the text and background colours).

A 320x200 pixel display, on the other hand, would require half a byte per pixel (assuming the same colour depth)... which adds up to 32,000 bytes (over sixteen times the data). Couple that with everything else that goes on in a Minecraft world, and the load on servers adds up.

It could be a system where tiles and their palettes are defined and drawn onto the screen as though they were characters. Everything in the screenshot appears to be in little 8x8 tiles with no more than 8 different colors in each.

does seem so

[oeed]

Looks like Dan's been trying to fix the image format problem too.

I'm interested to know how small the images are. The new format ardera's been creating can get as low as 20% of the original (painutils) size.

[Bomb Bloke]

Off the top of my head, an image like that would be somewhere below 32kb - probably something like half that figure. Hard to be exact as TGA supports RLE.

The paintutils image format is built to be "easy" rather than "efficient". With that, you can draw an image in Notepad if you want to.

[FUNCTION MAN!]

I'm less concerned with image formats and more concerned with the fact that the GPU can access the file system.

[HPWebcamAble]

FUNCTION MAN!, on 15 January 2016 - 01:11 AM, said:

I'm less concerned with image formats and more concerned with the fact that the GPU can access the file system.

Why is that concerning?

[dan200]

I may go back on this later, but right now, the filesystem is a shared resource which all devices can access (as is the main memory). A benefit of this is it allows the Lua CPU to be "just another device" without any special privileges.